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Ron Huber: Went out of business, they gave them the software, so they're running the software, but they have to replicate it, and they have to replicate it soon, because if it fails, there's no way they can touch it. We are actually building a java application right now, because one of our large media companies, the third-party system that they paid for went out of business. And, I don't know, most of the clients are not that big. You're also assuming that you're a large enough client that you can drive them into do what you need them to do. Ron Huber: Very good point, right? Here you are, all your technology is owned by somebody else, and you're assuming - of course - that company's going to be around forever.
Jordan Ryan: I'm not knocking anyone, but if you're building a business, you shouldn't be building on someone else's platform. Because he can't take it where he needs to.
And it did save him a hundred grand upfront, but now he's to a place where he wants to actually start monetizing his assets and actually start doing a lot of those different things that he's unable to do, and he's probably going to end up paying a hundred grand anyways.
The initial bid for him was going to end up being about a hundred large to just kind of do a very simple CMS with a simple video object and couple simple video apps layered on top of that. Ron Huber: Because you don't benefit from the other hundred clients that are also asking for something.Ĭhris Stauffer: I mean, yeah. Tom Friedhof: But there's a cost to that as well. And now he's sitting there going, "I can't get them to do the things I want them to do." And I'm like, "Dude, I would've told you you could do whatever you want." You know? I got no limitations - you want it? We’ll build it. Ron Huber: You pivot when you need to pivot.Ĭhris Stauffer: Right, you pivot when you need to. It'll be nice a simple, and then you'll be able to do whatever you want to.
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Whereas the initial platform that I was originally pitching him was, we'll start off with responsive web, like normal, we could throw an Android or iOS layer on top. And now he's ready to go, and he's ready to make some changes, and they told him no, and he can't do anything. So you have video platform - they did all of these different things, and he was really, really stoked, and really excited when he first told me about it. So he went with a quote/unquote open platform, and I'm putting air quotes around it, that would get him on all of these different devices. I had a conversation on Friday with a particular client - er, gentleman - that's been my client three times in the past, but his new start-up company is not my client. You know, all those Facebook followers that you have can go in, and it's a reality they think a lot of small business owners and medium-sized enterprises - they don't realize, if that page goes away, your whole platform you spent all that money on is gone.Ĭhris Stauffer: I liked what both of you two just said a second ago, which was kind of that that's one of the main value adds of open-source. And if you want to reach that audience, you have to pay for it.Ĭhris Stauffer: I believe that quote was, "If you didn't pay for it, you are the product." Tom Friedhof: This is where the argument of the open web and silos comes in, right? And obviously, Drupal's pushing for the open web, because with these silos - say your marketing platform is on Facebook, right? If you want to do anything above and beyond what Facebook allows you to do, you can't. They can do everything and they get you on it and it's too late once you realize that it only gets you about 75% of the way there. Everything has to go through their system. Where on the other side, when they sell the internet of things, there are platforms out there that are, "Oh, we're going to control the world," and they won't let you do anything but control the world. We sell it as it's a solid player and this is what we can do with it and we feel comfortable because that's just our way of approaching things. When somebody goes and pitches something for a proprietary side, they'll say yes to everything, where in open source, we’ll say, well we do this really well, and it'll integrate and that's no problem, but we don't sell it as the end-all.
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Ron Huber: Proprietary software does a really good job of being everything to everybody.
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